Best mates Sheehan and Gardiner talk discuss their up coming super heavyweight final
By Kevin Byrne (follow Kevin on Twitter @kevoobyrne)
YESSS BREAKFAST!!! RIGHT HAND AFTER THE HOOK!
DOUBLE UP THAT JAB! OUT LONG, DOUBLE IT UP! DOUBLE UP THAT JAB, BREAKFAST, COME ON! RIGHT HAND AFTER IT⊠YEEEAH.
Con Sheehan is fairly animated at this stage, and why wouldnât he be? One of his best mates, Clonmel BC team-mate Dean Gardiner, is embroiled in a super-heavyweight war with Joe Joyce of Moate at the National Stadium.
Itâs a tight first round. Gardiner has the edge in size and strength, but Joyce is on him like a dog.
GOOD SOLID JAB, BREAKFAST. TWO STRAIGHT TO THE HEAD, BANG THEM IN! Doosh doosh. COME ON, BREAKFAST.
THREE SHOTS NOW, COME ON! TWO ON THE GLOVES AND COME BACK WITH A HARD ONE. YOU NEED THE BACK-HAND AFTER THAT!
And so on. Sheehan is hoarse by the end of the fight, whereâs heâs just cheered his friend into the Elite super-heavyweight final.
And tis himself waiting there to meet him on Friday night.
Theyâve met once before and it was nothing personal. Paired together in a box-off to decide the team for last yearâs World Championships, Sheehan eased through the test and to be honest, it never really caught fire.
Perhaps theyâre too close, or found it too hard to summon up the spite needed to dig the head off a rival boxer.
For this yearâs Irish Elite Senior Championships, they were seeded No 1 and No 2.
Current champ Sean Turner has moved aside for the pro ranks, so a run of victories would guarantee an all-Clonmel final, just the 18th one-club decider in the history of the tournament.
And thatâs precisely what happened, Sheehan winning through with victories over Niall Kennedy and Jason Barron before that, Gardiner progressing following wins over the aforementioned Joyce and Dennis Boriskins.
Irish-boxing caught up with both of them before theyâd even laced a glove to catch their views on the draw, the possibility of fighting each other again, the time before and after a one-club fight and how Clonmel BC deals with the rivalry.
I-B: Iâll ask this to both of you, what was it like to fight your friend last year?
Dean Gardiner: Ah, it werenât too bad. Sure weâre sparring the whole time so weâre used to being in the ring together by now. It just⊠has to be done.
Con, what did you make of the fight last time out?
Con Sheehan: Itâs not nice having to fight him, but like Dean said the two of us are sparring day in, day out so itâs nothing new. We just go in and let the shots off. Whatever happens happens then.
But surely you need to put some spite into the punches, do you need to create an edge?
CS: The two of us have a competitive edge anyway. We know each other so long and grew up together, so the two of us just try to better each other out of spite! Thereâs no bad blood or no nothinâ like that, itâs just the two of us going in with a friendly rivalry.
How do you still get up for the fight?
CS: You donât wanna be gettingâ beat, lad, itâs as simple as that isnât it?!? If you get beat youâre out of the tournament. Everyone still wants to get to that No 1 spot. Thatâs what drives the two of us to get in and push ourselves against each other. Weâre only in there for nine minutes fighting. After that, grand, weâll be friends again.
Dean, you want to take that mantle. How do you get up for the fight? Is that enough?
DG: Everyone wants to be No 1. I wouldnât say you get a bit of a spite up, but you still want to win.
At any stage during your last fight, did you find yourself easing off, or enjoying yourself, or enjoying some friendly back and forth that you wouldnât normally enjoy in a fight?
DG: I wouldnât say you enjoy it, but you give it all you can.
Did you enjoy the fight with Dean, Con?
CS:Â Ah, I enjoy all my fights. But easing off? No way. None of the two of us eased off. Itâs super-heavyweight boxing â you ease off for a few seconds, you get caught and you go asleep. No way would you be easing off at all. The two of us are giving 100 per cent against each other.
Do you keep in contact every day?
CS: Absolutely, we only live down the road from each other. We grew up together, hanging round together. Weâre all mates together. We know each other all our lives.
If youâre drawn together to fight, will you have to keep your distance for a few days before?
CS: Ah, we still chat away to each other. We do be chatting sometimes warming up. You leave that a couple of minutes before the fight. You have nerves, but itâs a different kind of nerves than if you were fighting another fella.
Did you travel up together for your last fight?
CS: No, I donât think we did that time.
DG: We came up in separate cars but sure we were in the gym the night before training together. We see too much of each other I think!
And what was the buzz like the night before you fought each other? In the gym, I mean.
CS: The night before, I think we had a very short session. I donât think we saw that much of each other. The two of us were in and out the door and I think it was just a couple of rounds on the bags, a couple rounds of shadow boxing, then the two of us were gone, grand, see ya tomorrow. That was it.
Were you texting each other, âIâm gonna bate the head off youâ or anything like that?
CS: No, no, none of that! Look, at the end of the day itâs just a sport and we have to go in against each other. Youâre training all year round to try to be the best. The two of us will go in and give our all. The next day we were out together not a bother. Itâs just the name of the game, isnât it?
To lose that fight though, how did that feel?
DG: (long) Eh⊠itâs was all right. Connie was the No 1 and I wasnât even ranked going into it. Iâm No 2 now so Iâm glad Iâm seeded. But sure look, if the two of want to win weâre going to have to beat each other eventually and go hell for leather.
You wonât accept it as easily the next time, though. The more you train and box, the more youâre going to see yourself as the No 1?
DG: Thatâs true too but sure look, weâll see what happens. Weâll find out in the next few weeks.
Are you cheering for one another to reach the final?
CS: Absolutely, of course. We always want to win fights.
DG: The plan is to get two Clonmel men into the senior final.
CS: I was delighted to see him get seeded No 2. We were thinking there might only be the one seed so we were delighted to get the No 2 seed as well, and we can keep clear of each other. If one of us gets beat, at least the other still has a chance until finals night. And if the two of us gets to the final, itâs brilliant for the club. Then the two of us can just go at it like we said.
Who out of the two of you punches harder?
CS: Iâd say he punches harder than I do.
DG: Heâd be quicker!
Who started boxing first?
CS: He started boxing first as well.
DG: I started boxing first, but I left when I was about 16. Connie stuck at it and he got the rewards. But Iâm just back now a year, year and a half, so Iâm happy to be in the same ring as him.
What happened at the club when you fought last time out? What corner arrangements were made?
CS: What they done was, the put our names into a hat and they got two coaches to pick. They left out the main coach, Martin Fennessy who would usually do both our corners, he wasnât involved at all. He put the names in a hat and the other club coaches, John Mackey and Keith Galvin, he asked them to pull out a name without knowing. It was the fairest way we could do it.
Was that just the night before?
CS: Yeah, just the night before. It was as fair as we could do it, and that was it.
Were you happy with the coach you got?
DG: It was grand. I wasnât talking to the coaches for an hour or two after the fight! But it was grand. It didnât really matter who we got.
Where was the winning of the fight last time?
DG: He boxed better than me (laughs).
How long did it take you to admit that?
DG: Ah no, I knew it after the fight. Donât get me wrong, he didnât kill me, there wasnât much in it, but he won fair and square and there was nothing I could do, I couldnât give out. I knew I was beat.
Did you go for a pint together afterwards?
CS: We did yeah, the next day we went for an oul pint. Early enough as well, wasnât it? We were down in Clonmel in a few of the local pubs. Like I said, weâd be out together anyway of we werenât fighting, we hang around together all the time, we grew up together and weâre always out together either way.
Youâre both big fellas, who can put away more pints?
CS: Itâd be a tight one.
Dean, how did you get the nickname Breakfast Roll?
DG: I think when my friends used call to me, the grandmother wouldnât let me out until I finished my breakfast. So it stuck with me since.
If you do fight here in the final, half of the Clonmel crowd will shout for Breakfast Roll, the other half for Connie? Or just whoeverâs winning?
DG: We all have the same friends soâŠ
CS: It depends on whoâs having the better crack with the lads during the week. They could turn around to me and say âI hope Breakfast knocks you outâ or turn around to him and say they hope I knock him out. Theyâll be laughing. Thereâs loads of buzz with them.
Are your parents, families close at all?
CS: They know each other through the boxing. We played soccer and GAA together and everything the whole way up, so the parents would know each other. They had to be friendly enough when we were going around to the tournaments together when we were younger, going round to the club shows and all that.
Iâll say good luck lads, and let the best man win. One more question before we finish, is there an opportunity â with the absentees this year like Egan and Nevin and all the rest â to break into the limelight?
CS: I donât think so now, being honest. I think the opportunity is always there, itâs just on the world stage. Winning these seniors is the only way to get there so thatâs why weâre going to be pushing ourselves if we do get drawn together. Thatâs the only way to break into the limelight â to perform on the world stage and get among the medals. Thatâs the only way you can do it.